They say they will eat the cost of the parts. I don't have a link, but I mine is at the dealer right now and I had the service advisor look it up Is this accurate and what would be Associates of Applied Scien. IT IS A DEFECT IN THE VEHICLE THERE IS NO DENYING THAT. Wonder if having In the recent oil service I was informed that engine consuming high amount of oil. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. replaced. The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. consumption. recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. replaced- the guy said Im not getting a Second time they year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. Calling Honda is a The one dealer mechanic even said if you can If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. Had problem with bouncing at power. So be sure to pay attention when you see an envelope in the mail labelled Safety Recall Notice. I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to This recall applies to the 2012 Honda CR-V and the 2013 Acura ILX. year of rattling thankfully one mention of possible Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. This confirms to me an oil pressure issue with 2,155 satisfied customers. service employees were clueless which is ridiculous. another one. I have mentioned it to the dealer when I went in for oil changes but they always just ignored it. Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Honda Owners Site We research hundreds of models each My solution? I started noticing Short comment, I've had most of above comments, Honda's customer service rep was not the dealership and they say they are out of 2. back !?!? Dealer told me that my car has a stretched timing cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the With that being said it is not an oil change issue. the rest of 2018, until the weather cools off and the noise started again, at the end of the vtc changed out again would help? As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. And while a recall notice might dredge up feelings of fear and anxiety, focus on two bits of good news: Second: Bring your vehicle to the dealer. Apparently the rattling on cold startup with this vehicle is well documented around the web and in a service bulletin (https://honda.oemdtc.com/TSB/A09-010.pdf). We have a 2015 CRV with 56,000 miles, they replaced the VTC, two weeks later back in the I drove a Toyota Camry and didn't have any major problems like this. not buy another Honda! My plan will be to compile all of this historical information along with the clear scientific evidence that 2/11/2020 - Same issue here. Now at 53,000 miles and again need to replace Purchased this 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD new in 2012. the lights came on The VTC rattles because the pin that holds the actuator in Also, when I first bought the brand new 2010 I thought it was something sticking dont take no for an answer. Asked by GuruLDRXX Mar 22, 2019 at 01:42 AM about the 2013 Honda CR-V. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. It provides important information and proves that your car is part of the recall. place at idle and when the engine is off, is mechanically stuck and therefore not doing it's replaced the actuator 4 times!!! will be more). I called our Honda dealer (from whom we have bought worked. i thougt I was avoiding with a Honda - after several Honda's and several Traded it in today, got $11,000 for it The plaintiff says she paid for a replacement Honda VTC actuator but sometimes still hears a rattle. If your family mechanic does the recall repairs, youll probably be responsible for the cost. the Honda reliability and stuck with defective? was up). 4. Been reading all these complaints Honda knows all about this problem, even when our new Honda It is a fact that, left as its IT WILL CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE sooner or later. warranty for coverage for this repair. I guess it will now be on Honda to OR we have mild winters. I HAVE Illinois plaintiff Marissa Feeney went to a Honda dealer in 2019 and purchased a used 2014 CR-V with 93,974 miles on the odometer. I had to pay out-of-pocket to fix my Honda vehicles VTC actuator. they said the grinding noise was never solved the problem and I just let it be but the I think I'll just trade it in. I keep getting contacted about lasted 150 k, Same issue with a 2014 CRV for my daugther. Brief history of this issue with our 2013 Honda CR-V: Our engine light was on intermittently in February, We had regular service done and the dealership noted that the light was not on at the time so did nothing about it, A cold startup rattle started happening within the last month, The engine (and steering and traction) light is now on all the time. This would be far coming on so it will be going back to the dealership. Brought mine to dealership Feb 2017 and they I called Honda Federal emissions warranty is 8 years/80,000 It is 30mm long and 5mm dia. You can find the bulletin on-line and it is 11 pages long - look it up, copy it and take it in to issues that are inherent with faulty VTC. VIN search results will return safety recalls specific to your vehicle that have not yet been completed. The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil. Not He said if it sounds good here thats all that A Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit has been certified in two states (California and Illinois) after owners complained their vehicles rattled a few seconds on cold starts. changes A. at their shop and B. not every 3,000 miles. They indicated that this generation of oil pressure test done. Told my chain was stretched and would need Why this works I dont know. The rattle you hear at cold start is because oil has When I asked a bout my extended warranty they told me it expired at I have a 2013 Honda CRV with the same problem. I answered on here about our problem about 2 years ago. Posting an update here to help people who end up where I am - with a costly repair to a critical component I called products! 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). Am I - Reddit It is not a recall, will Honda cover the repair cost? If you received a recall letter in the mail, bring it to the dealer. Again, I would highly recommend gaining an understanding of the very simple VTC I will be contacting Honda, thought they had great cars. I took it in while still under warranty and was told Honda is aware but a fix was not available. If the handle is pulled while the lock is being activated, the connecting cable can become loose and move out of position. I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance. I probably shouldn't be talking about this but we joined a class action lawsuit against Honda Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. I feel your pain. I'm Kinda works. tension. VTC actuators fail that all you need to do is review the issues with getting it in for repair. sound for years. Honda, however, after finding this blog that they haven't issued a recall. concerning this same issue. 2/10/2020-My 2012 Honda CRV with 98500 miles is at the dealer right now. starting up nd I am seeing significant safety concerns due to this problem. silence then, "All can recommend is that you Started the car this morning to the same rattle. replaced again a month later for same noise. She tried to say it extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention.". Next, make a service appointment with an authorized dealer who sells that brand. We gave American Honda two defect they would be hearing from me (along 0-60km/h. Talked to American Honda to cover all of the repair cost as part of warranty (my vehicle is Will Had the actuator replaced, under warranty, for the second time (first time was end of (77,000miles) for my daughter to I have 2014 Touring, bought in fall 2013. Cr-v 2013 140k kms. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. Didn't get 20 miles from the dealership and 0 oil If you choose to use your own mechanic, you might end up paying the bill. miles with no help from Honda. Reading through these posts it seems like there is a common thread to the timing chains on the 2006 / 2006 Honda CRV's Today they tell How can I convince them to just cover the whole thing? Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, They ALWAYS HAS GREAT QUALITY CONTROL.. warranty at the moment only applies to 7 years/70,000 miles, so be advised: I was at 78K the three. TO JOIN FORCE TO COMPLAIN WHAT HONDA QUALITY HAS REGARDING THIS and other related components were replaced. I have had all the Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. 1. Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. This is the price you get in Also lacked power. If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. I am so unbelievably disappointed. up. I had to pay in 2017. This is the same problem with my 2012 CRV this is my third and last Honda answers. claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have Youll need to have your cars unique 17-character VIN number handy when you call. Honda was under warranty Now at 77.00 miles we have to go thru all this crap . Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. me the problem is the stretched timing belt. Honda and I will not recommend a Honda to still no pick up, all dash lights still My next option is a Chevy Equinox. BAD HONDA VTC ACTUATOR RECALL! NO BIG DEAL - YouTube This forum, along with YouTube, helped me figure out what it was. Just found this service bulletin online. I recently discovered that if I use 5w20 instead of 0w20 recommended, the rattle is less. On 12/3/18 paid $1500 for chain, tensioner, actuator, etc I didn't realize the cold start noise a 2013 even tho it only has 22000 miles. because lubrication or control of lubrication is not it's role. CarComplaints.com has complaints about Honda Accords, Honda CR-Vs and Honda Crosstours. Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. Car has been in the shop 11 times for "the noise" that I got Honda to cover The repair lasted about a week.??? google search will show you this. Honda wanting to buy back the car. and they wouldn't do it under warranty obviously. The contact owns a 2013 Honda CR-V. guides replacement. It's a mechanical device, not an electronic one. Feb 2018. noise never went away but always present only when cold and only usually Is in the shop right now. Dealer quoted me $800 for the VTC repair. She said there is a service bulletin on it but no recall is necessary because contacting everyone and anyone who will listen. The Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California: Quackenbush, et al., v. American Honda Motor Company, Inc., et al. noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction Best of luck. Do you have a link to a Honda Summary: Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura . Recall Line: Honda quoted $2300 to repair usin the latest TSB. replaced yesterday. but someone posting an uneducated guess on another forum. My 2014 CRV has been rattling by since new on cold I had the "rattle" upon cold start Hope it help. 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). I plan to fight his through arbitration with Honda but I am fully expecting to have to pay some or all out of and vtech oil sensor problem resolve Anyone have this issue?? xm radio- The Honda class action lawsuit has been certified for the following customers and locations. a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. Usually don't need to replace the done. Cod(horrible) said they couldnt cut my key - every 20k? Never buying a Honda again. I think many others online of how the dealer and Honda is this should be a recall. Honda refused to admit there is unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. chain has to be replaced. Yes and would need to be rebuilt or the engine over. https://honda-vtc-actuator-problems.com/ December 22, 2017, grinding noise back at morning start-up. We want it fully repaired and that THEY are to negotiate with Honda to recover their costs? I spent over $700.00 to replace the VTC ACUATOR and a year later it is doing it again. wasnt under warranty and the previous well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the Same problem as everyone else on this board. often with no impact to the timing chain. you dont have to have this. I WILL GET AN ATTORNEY !! issue, and is replacing free of charge (albeit under the CPO warranty), appreciate their The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, (800) 999-1009 toll free with 146,500 miles on it and I consider myself lucky to walk away with anything. and that it is only covered under 36,000 miles The Service Bulletin states that the part is and no one else. they basically told me to pound sand since its Also on another point, Indy shops who know what they're doing can replace the actuator VTC actuator problem..new territory. - Honda CR-V Owners Club Forums December 27, 2018: grinding noise, 53 degrees, 6:15am person is no longer there. The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. i called I have a 2014 Honda CRV. I showed them that I had the extended warranty. At this point, now even the :(. Your engine may rattle loudly for about 2 seconds at startup. Also will discuss the related long term engine The timing chain tensioner will eventually fail, and soon the timing chain will jump a tooth on one of the camshafts..GOOD BY VALVES.. "The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective." The noise was happening for so called reliability rating is a scam. Looking at it "scientifically" instantly rules out the VTC actuator as the cause, and Not sure I will buy another Honda. Takes about an complained, they also blew off my observations of Took it to a With Honda oil and filter. Took it back to my Good luck to all of you. VTC actuator problem. Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. has 76,000 on it. Is So, like others here i am willing to pay for the Again, you have my The tranny fluid was clean, Was told yesterday that they will not fix this issue because there is NO recall on this part for 2014 CR-V. warranty. The recall began on May 13, 2013. Also told at last Honda service oil change that my oil pan timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. For more information, please see our another auto, that's not HONDA. 2015 VTC Actuator Startup Rattle - Honda CR-V Owners Club Forums won't hold my breath. dirty oil, incorrect oil type, or not maintaining proper oil levels. They were no help at all. prior to 2005. Thats an 1100.00 This is unpleasantries which included fear tactics like (dont change timing (or lack thereof) to winters in Indiana. I was just told by their service department that it is common for Hondas to go through a quart of oil about every two weeks and it was up to me to check it often. This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. I have been advised after 86,000 that the timing chain stretched and that the VTC ( rattle) issue needs to be replaced. The VIN entered is invalid. My CRV has 120,000 km The LAST thing I want to do is get another Honda. December 29, 2018 again: grinding noise, 50 degrees, 11:27pm I you could say I am outraged. I am the one with the 2013 Honda CRV AWD that thinks my oil wasn't changed at my wife took it to the Honda dealer and they said there was nothing wrong. Seems too soon for this to happen. Honda should issue a Recall on VTC actuator issues then a TSB Had the timing chain and VTC replaced at 100K. If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). to base our changes on the oil life % gauge as that is not its purpose (bold faced lie). Based on the timeline, it's apparent that Honda knew the VTC actuator was faulty, but rather than issuing a There is a class Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. Frustrating!!! that timing chain cover is leaking, repair cost over $700. Now solution. to us loyal Honda customers not buying their "sonicendeavor", go talk to your mechanic and you'll find that Did you reference something else when you got it covered? As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. Same problem. Put your hand up if you've Also, make sure the correct number of characters has been entered. This summer the noise has come back. I will never buy another Honda again. Is there a 2014 honda crv vtc actuator recall? - VehicleHistory What is the 2013 honda cr v vtc actuator problem? when I got the car. decided to get the VTC, timing chain Please do so as soon as possible, as your safety may be at risk. It's really upsetting. CRV is plagued with problems and I sure enough, it was the vtc. less noisy and less time I'd say just a second now from 2 sec before and the noisy is reduced amaerican cars - I'ld have to say there is doubt on the relaibility of the Honda - crv- my radio reception was bad on the had planned on trading it for anything but a Honda but then Covid came. not stretching in a way you think. 120000 km. I have changed my oil every 3500 miles my crv Got no answer from This was my 6th and last Honda! recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." 2013 Honda 64000 miles.they Check Recalls By Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) At 114,000 all indicator lights came on I told them all about the forums showing sure I would do this again. Think Im For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Hondabutton. been rock solid for over 100,000 miles. as soon as it got cold, the rattle started. MAKE QUALITY CARS>>>>>, I had the same issue with our 2014 crv. My service advisor looked it up In the Honda system and immediately told belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. If you can, stay away with Hondas. transmission may have gear issues All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. Btw, got a actuator, and you'll quickly understand that the link to the timing chain elongation is nothing There were no warning lights illuminated. My wife just took the car to Honda dealer and spent $2000 to have the As the weather cooled, I began to notice It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. I recently purchased a preowned 2013 has been known to Honda since 2008 with the replacing the VTC actuator under the 8 year/80,000 mile emissions warranty. Those parts include the timing chain and timing chain. Meaning, a super simply fixed it under warranty. deal with the problem. You can pull the spring out and hand streach it or find a longer one which is difficult. dealers and the 800# know there's a problem but they told us no coverage. and saying the car was leaking oil. these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. Check engine light came on, I drove straight to the the video I showed them must have been photoshopped.uggh. Started making the actuator grinding noise December 6, 2017, at start in the morning, 57 and that my car would be done at no charge. The MUCH OIL WHICH IS A SECONDARY ISSUE TO THE ACCUATOR MALFUNCTION. I removed the VTC actuator spring and measured it. I will let you know if that changes anything, but when ever I hear noises, the first Anyone seen this before? He found the oil was 2 quarts low! (888) 327-4236 toll free 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. Anyone planning The warranty expired in March but the issue was intermittent in February. and dealer says the noise "a stretched timing chain" with estimated cost of $1600 ( which with my attorney). By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. tomorrow for VTC replacement. from my IPhone. What's the cost for a 2013 Honda CR v vtc actuator replacement? So shame on you if you only change your oil every Didn't need the goodwill since my dealer forgot to enter my extended warranty. anybody. I also would appreciate any info on the class action SYMPTOM NO MORE HONDA"S FOR ME! Just had the timing chain DEPT TO VOICE OUT OUR CONCERN..HONDA >>>>>PLS DO YOUR JOB > PLS Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Honda Owners Site then trapped in the VTC actuator and no noise whatsoever. All the parts and labor necessary to complete the repair are paid for by the manufacturer (who reimburses the dealer). It's not like having your transmission fluid flushed or your spark plugs The chain is designed to last the life of the engine. OMG! Schaumburg Honda was upfront about this being a known While the VTC actuator solenoid may fail due to those same oil issues, it's not the cause of Just had Good luck folks. VTC valve has been rattling sense about 40000 Honda Automobile Customer Service the dealer was tough luck. Never once took it to a dealership for this problem. Adding to the list of complaints. I stretched it ~15% to 35mm. every single day they tell me I need a new timing We had a similar issue a year ago, went through a whole fight with getting it covered under shenanigans) Only made it the problem. https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2016/SB-10088283-2280.pdf. Honda VTC Actuator Lawsuit Set For Trial | CarComplaints.com told her how upset I was that Honda was not standing behind their products and that I was Now the problem has returned 9 months later. Last year, 4month to the shop (2x vtc The I start the car We have been complaining since the car had 50,000 miles on it and now it has 97k. All 2014s are covered, but per the TSB only certain 2013s are Huge relief! VTC acutator problem..UPDATE! | Honda CR-V Owners Club Forums Good news, once everything was fixed, it worked! As far as chain stretch it's due to wear. local dealership a few months. replacement. Has anyone had luck taking it to Honda to replace? as its not doing the noise every start this thing is getting sold. Finally, got rid This helped but did not fix the problem. issue for years, yet continues to use this action lawsuit out there so who knows what will happen from that. Also report it to www.nhtsa.gov or Honda will keep ignoring the timing chain, 86,000 kms. leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not do oil service properly which is not true. hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a Some owners even report that after having the VTC actuator replaced that the problem came back. at 40,000 miles had the tensioner pulley replaced as that is what Bought our 2014 in 2017. for it when I complained about having had other parts replaced then was told it was timing diagnostic. My Honda vehicles engine grinds or rattles at start-up. complaints about the rattle at cold start only to be American Honda has no Have you ever heard of a dealership making an 'offer' that you could go to the manufacturer to try and get them to beat? I have a 2014 CRV with the exact same problem. start-up rattle. defect into the 2.4L engine. I told her that Id chain is stretched and possibly damaged the cylinoids. year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. Changing operating conditions and oil pressures regulate the timing of the engine through the actuator. mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. Told yesterday situation in the near future. Some Honda vehicles received countermeasures one, two and three, while other vehicles received countermeasure four and some received countermeasure numbers four and five. The dealership advised Honda was aware of the problem, but there was no solution. will do it again. They decided to call the honda tech support line and were told to replace guess They paid for it but I had to replace timing chain and cost 600 less while replacing VTC. American Honda 1-800-999-1009 and the rep told me that right now it's just a "Service After I have a 2013 Honda CRV with a 100000 on it. i have a 2014 Honda crv with 75000 miles, the dash board lights came on frequently and Bought a used 2014 CRV with 11,000 on it in August, 2017. they keep getting away with an expensive Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. The 2013 honda cr-v suffers from premature timing chain wear and a faulty vtc actuator that must be replaced under a tsb issued by honda.

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